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I kno this thread will make some angry because they "love" IC.

I have a feeling he's not gonna have a great year in baseball this season so just like there is a fade lang thread, I'm making a fade IC thread. My money will be on the opposite side of IC's plays and let's see what happens. Bets will be against all of IC's plays, baseball or not but baseball is the main thing here.

I could lose money but I could also win big. I will continue to update this thread as much as possible. If anybody wants to contribute to this thread feel free to do so. It's just an experiment. If the wheels fall off after a month I'll give up and IC wins. All bets will be $100 on underdogs. Favorites will be to win $100. Remember the fade starts today. IC's baseball record up to yesterday does not count. I will update later today when IC's plays become available.
 

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This is IC's card for Tuesday. Still waiting for his picks to be posted.

TUESDAY'S PLAYS:

4* MLB: Rangers vs. Orioles (8pm)

2* MLB: Additional Dog Play (8pm)

4* NBA: Boston vs. Philadelphia (8pm)
 

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Here we go.. The fade is on..

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4 Unit Play. Take Over 11 between Baltimore Orioles @ Texas Rangers (Tuesday @ 8pm est). I had already considered making this a Pod yesterday prior to the game finishing between these two teams. We have cashed on or against the Orioles and Rangers consistently this year including the winner on the O's yesterday as +115 dog. Regardless of who wins today, these two offenses put up 19 runs on the board yesterday and the pitchers today are no better than the two that took the mound yesterday. For starters, Simon is a young kid that had a 7+ era in his first outing and he faces a very good hitting team in the Rangers, in a hitter's ballpark, who come off 9-10 loss and who are itching to snap a losing streak they are currently on. On top of that, the Orioles face McCarthy who had a 5.4 era against an Indians team that is not playing well right now and struggled to pick up the win against them while walking 4 and even hitting a batter. The Orioles will not be as kind with McCarthy as they are likely to enjoy hitting in Texas just as much as they put up 10 runs on Padilla yesterday. Look for the Rangers on the bounce-back to hit Simon well, and the Orioles to hit McCarthy well who was fortunate against the Indians to get by with his control problems, but will likely not be as fortunate today. The over is 5-0 for the Rangers when they are an Underdog by this margin and the Over is 4-0 in the last 4 home games for the Rangers.

2 Unit Play. Take the Kansas City Royals RL +140 over the Cleveland Indians (Tuesday @ 8pm est). I'm not a huge fan of the RL, but we did use it for our 5* GOTW on Sunday with the Rays over the Orioles. A similar situation applies today as Davies was lights out against the Whitesox as he didn't yield a run to this team but did not pick up a win. Davies returns home to face an Indians team that although he has a 1-3 mark against, he was 1-0 against them last year. KC has been great for Davies as he has left a bit of the pressure in Atlanta and thrived in late September and looks to continue thriving after a strong scoreless first start against the Sox. The Indians lineup has not done well in the early start of the season as they are just 1-6 and although this game might be high scoring as the Indians look to give Pavano some help, Davies clearly has his stuff together as compared to Carl, who had an 81 era in his first start. Although Pavano will look better in this outing, I question how drastically an individually could have gotten better over the span of 1 start. I still believe although Pavano will not have a 81 era start, he is likely to give up about 4-5 runs in the span of 5 innings and Davies will hold the fort down. I think at +140, this is good value to take for a 2 unit wager and we will continue to make mini-plays of 2 units every now and then if we can feel like we can pad the bankroll with an additional win. It's a long season, so over the long haul it will be worth it for us. Let's take the stronger pitcher and currently the stronger team in the Royals who are 4-3 and are solid at home while the Indians continue to struggle to find an identity as they are not pitching, nor hitting well currently.

4 Unit Play. Take Philadelphia -4 over the Boston Celtics (Tuesday @ 8pm est). There is a limited number of games on the docket today, but we will take the Sixers at home against the C's. Boston has the #2 seed in the East either way and Garnett will not play. Allen is Questionable and in fact, Doc Rivers rest his starters today. Remember, Philly lost to this team by 1 point last time at home 99-100 and come off five straight losses including a loss to Toronto on the road. Obviously Philly will look to bounce-back, have some revenge, and have their starters on the floor so this game is far more important for them in many ways than Boston. The Celtics do come off an embarrassing loss to the Cavs on the road, but then again, I don't think that loss really means anything to this team, as they have already clinched and even after that loss, they plan on resting essentially everybody today to give some of their young guys some playing time. There is a similar case in Atlanta today where the Heat reserves will likely play against the Hawks as Moon, Wade and O'Neal are likely to rest. But, rather than laying that 9, we will lay the 4 here with Philly who also comes off a series of losses and has revenge here.
 

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Just to comment on the sixers-celtics game seems like IC is tryin to pull a fast one. The sixers are -6.5 but IC has it at -4
The line I'm going by is 6.5 cause thats what it was when the plays were released.
 

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IC is a good guy ... but what do we say again about good guys ... oh yes ... they finish last.
 

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You faded IC today and lost unfortunately. Save your money dawg, baseball is going well for him, he is Awesome in WNBA, and he is having a back and forth swing in basketball, and he has cooled off in basketball. You can find a hundred guys to fade and your going to fade this guy. Not the best idea in my opinion but good luck man.

He picks a lot of Underdogs in Baseball and they cash.

Look what he did the last 4 days in baseball

Sunday: 5* Rays RL +110 over Orioles (W) = 5 units
Monday: 4* Orioles +115 over Rangers (W) = 4 units
Tuesday: 4* Rangers/Orioles Over 11 (W) = 4 units
Tuesday: 2* Royals RL +140 over Indians (W) = 2.8 units

As for your record today fading IC:

Rangers/Orioles Over: +4 Units.
Royals RL +140 over Indians: +2.8
Sixers -4: 4.4

IC Made +2.4 Units today, You Lost -2.4 Today if you Faded him.
 

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Smoke I made a mistake man. You are down worse b/c you would have had Cleveland +1.5 because he cashed with the dog. So you lost -2.8 units on that. Add that to the -4.4 you lost with the Over, and the +4 you gained with the Sixers:

If you Faded IC you would be down -3.2 Units. gl man.
 

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Fading IC right call

I lost so terribly with this guy the month I had him (over 35 units) there is no chance not to win fading him. Period. Not sure what the infatuation is with IC but there is zero chance he can string enough winners together to beat a chase. Im on the fade hard.
 

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IC went 2-1 on tuesday. Good for him. Bad for me. Fading IC is down -3.2 units. Hope he has a terrible day today. will post IC's plays later when they become avail. If someone finds or gets them b4 me please post em here 4 me. thanks
 

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Here is IC's card for wednesday. Will post his picks when they become avail or if someone finds them b4 me, please post. thanks

WEDNESDAY'S PLAYS:

4* MLB: Orioles vs. Rangers (8pm)

4* NBA: Atlanta vs. Memphis (8pm)
 

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Man, that sucks for you Smoke. When he juices out, so do you. You lost money fading IC again. See, the way it woks is you also pay vig, so you only make money when he goes 0-2 which doesn't happen that often. If he goes 2-0, or 1-1, you still lose money. I thought you had the Hawks though.

You have faded IC 2 days and lost both days.

You are -3.6 units fading IC. good luck tomorrow.
 

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i am neither an IC fan nor a hater as PMan can attest, but for all the times i have busted his balls in the past for suspect picks, i do think fading his calls is ridiculous. just my 2c. good luck with your strategy guys.
 

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Well, IC went 1-1 yesterday we both lose the juice. Fading IC is down -3.6 units over 2 days. Not a big deal though. It's only been 2 days and it's only been -3.6 units. Will post plays later as soon as they bcome avail
 

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Man, that sucks for you Smoke. When he juices out, so do you. You lost money fading IC again. See, the way it woks is you also pay vig, so you only make money when he goes 0-2 which doesn't happen that often. If he goes 2-0, or 1-1, you still lose money. I thought you had the Hawks though.

You have faded IC 2 days and lost both days.

You are -3.6 units fading IC. good luck tomorrow.

Yea, it sucks but its only been 2 days. I've seen IC go on some terrible skids. Good things are still to come. I'm was up money before i began this experiment and I'm still up money.
 

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THURSDAY'S PLAYS:

4* MLB: Blue Jays vs. Twins (8pm)

Funny how if you check IC's page he fails to mention the orioles/rangers loss. All he has is this:


Wed: 4* Grizzlies -7.5 over Hawks: Winner
 

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He talks about it on his Doc's page, if you read the baseball section and he updated his baseball run, 4-1 over his last 5, so he does acknowledge it (he was 4-0 before that).

Don't get me wrong dawg, but I don't know how you could be up money. In fact, it's very unlikely the way he bets. The last 2 days are an example. The only time when you make money is when IC goes 0-2 or 0-1. The last time you could have made money was on April 6th when he went 0-1. Besides that, he has either gone 2-0 or 1-1 everyday.

Which means, that in 10 days of fading him, you would have:

Lost Money 9 Days
Made money 1 Day.

Since you've been keeping track here: By Fading IC:

You Have Lost Money 2 Days.
Made Money 0 Days.

The past is past though, what counts is what we've been keeping track here regardless. Good luck on your venture.

I find this interesting because I have begun to fade Anthony Redd and some of Maddux Sports and that is going well for me.
 

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Smokey, rough day for you again.

IC wins again. You lose -4.4 Units. He is getting hot (7-3 his last 10 in baseball). MJ and I tried to mention to you this is a terrible idea.

Update: You have faded IC 3 days, you have lost all 3 Days.

You are down -8units & -$800. Maybe you'll have some luck later this week.
 

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Smokey, rough day for you again.

IC wins again. You lose -4.4 Units. He is getting hot (7-3 his last 10 in baseball). MJ and I tried to mention to you this is a terrible idea.

Update: You have faded IC 3 days, you have lost all 3 Days.

You are down -8units & -$800. Maybe you'll have some luck later this week.

Thanx 4 helpin me keep track. i'm only on here a couple times day so it helps. As far as being up money, that goes back to last year making my own picks and occasionally following other touts like the doctors, redd, and a few others. I still do both so that is how i'm up money dating back to jan/08. Thats the reason i deceided to do this experiment with ic bcause i can afford it. Not giving up yet though.. I'll let it run the full 30 days and if it doesn't work out i'll start a new thread fading someone else.
 

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